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		<title>By: WR</title>
		<link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/401k-contributions-with-outstanding-debt/#comment-10667</link>
		<dc:creator>WR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 00:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should reiterate that I believe habits need to be formed concurrently.

Contribute to your 401(k) while you pay down your debts. Developing the &#039;rituals of wealth&#039; will pay off for you in a short time-frame. 

Give to Charity with a Percentage of your income.
Build your 6 month contingency fund with a percentage of your income
Pay your debts with a percentage of your income.
Fund your 401(k) or IRA as well.

here is a little flowchart I have devised:
http://worthwild.net/blog/?p=165
ymmv

Starting a legitimate business is one of the &#039;optional&#039; keys to financial independence. You can do it without it but I encourage you to look into entrepreneurship as an option.

-WR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should reiterate that I believe habits need to be formed concurrently.</p>
<p>Contribute to your 401(k) while you pay down your debts. Developing the &#8216;rituals of wealth&#8217; will pay off for you in a short time-frame. </p>
<p>Give to Charity with a Percentage of your income.<br />
Build your 6 month contingency fund with a percentage of your income<br />
Pay your debts with a percentage of your income.<br />
Fund your 401(k) or IRA as well.</p>
<p>here is a little flowchart I have devised:<br />
<a href="http://worthwild.net/blog/?p=165" rel="nofollow">http://worthwild.net/blog/?p=165</a><br />
ymmv</p>
<p>Starting a legitimate business is one of the &#8216;optional&#8217; keys to financial independence. You can do it without it but I encourage you to look into entrepreneurship as an option.</p>
<p>-WR</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/401k-contributions-with-outstanding-debt/#comment-10664</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicole    Not so fast...usually employer matching plans are a percentage of what you invest up to a certain percentage of your base pay.  For example, my employer matches 25% of what I put in up to 6% of my base pay.  So, if i put in 4%, my employer matches 25% of that (1%), bringing my total 401(k) contribution to 5%.  However, I don&#039;t get the tax break on the match.  I would strongly advise on reviewing your company&#039;s matching policy, as I would highly doubt they will match 100% with minimal investment.

In my case, in order to get my company&#039;s full 6% match, I have to invest 24% of my gross pay in my 401(k), which I do; this gives me a full 30% of my gross pay in my retirement account, of which I only contributed 24% (the 6% match is FREE money).  I cannot simply lower my contributions to 6% and keep my 6% match, as that would result in only a 1.5% company match (25% of 6%=1.5%), yielding a 7.5% 401(k) contribution.

@ Blogger     Lastly, you note 8% over 30 year on the stock market.  That is the AVERAGE return per year if invested over 30 years.  You&#039;re leaving out that a 401(k) reinvests your interest earned, compounding the interest.  $100/yr invested over 30 years compounded ONLY once/yr @ 8% (usually it will be per month in a 401(k)) yields $12,234 ($100 x 30yrs=$3,000 invested; the difference is your investment profit).  This results in a lifetime interest yield of over 400%.  (This is why every financial advisor will tell you the earlier you invest, the more money you will earn due to compounding.)

Your car payments do not carry compounded interest, as you are amortizing the principal and interest.  Your total interest over 3 years is $4,000; over 6 years is $8,000.  So, by reducing your 401(k) contribution to pay off your car (or any loan for that matter) is not financially responsible.  You need to &quot;pay yourself first&quot;, i.e. 401(k), and then pay off debts to creditors.  If you do otherwise, you&#039;ll still have a retirements nest egg, but it will likely look like a robin&#039;s instead of an ostrich&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicole    Not so fast&#8230;usually employer matching plans are a percentage of what you invest up to a certain percentage of your base pay.  For example, my employer matches 25% of what I put in up to 6% of my base pay.  So, if i put in 4%, my employer matches 25% of that (1%), bringing my total 401(k) contribution to 5%.  However, I don&#8217;t get the tax break on the match.  I would strongly advise on reviewing your company&#8217;s matching policy, as I would highly doubt they will match 100% with minimal investment.</p>
<p>In my case, in order to get my company&#8217;s full 6% match, I have to invest 24% of my gross pay in my 401(k), which I do; this gives me a full 30% of my gross pay in my retirement account, of which I only contributed 24% (the 6% match is FREE money).  I cannot simply lower my contributions to 6% and keep my 6% match, as that would result in only a 1.5% company match (25% of 6%=1.5%), yielding a 7.5% 401(k) contribution.</p>
<p>@ Blogger     Lastly, you note 8% over 30 year on the stock market.  That is the AVERAGE return per year if invested over 30 years.  You&#8217;re leaving out that a 401(k) reinvests your interest earned, compounding the interest.  $100/yr invested over 30 years compounded ONLY once/yr @ 8% (usually it will be per month in a 401(k)) yields $12,234 ($100 x 30yrs=$3,000 invested; the difference is your investment profit).  This results in a lifetime interest yield of over 400%.  (This is why every financial advisor will tell you the earlier you invest, the more money you will earn due to compounding.)</p>
<p>Your car payments do not carry compounded interest, as you are amortizing the principal and interest.  Your total interest over 3 years is $4,000; over 6 years is $8,000.  So, by reducing your 401(k) contribution to pay off your car (or any loan for that matter) is not financially responsible.  You need to &#8220;pay yourself first&#8221;, i.e. 401(k), and then pay off debts to creditors.  If you do otherwise, you&#8217;ll still have a retirements nest egg, but it will likely look like a robin&#8217;s instead of an ostrich&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
		<link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/401k-contributions-with-outstanding-debt/#comment-10091</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.</description>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read carefully. They were putting in *MORE* than what their companies would match. Example: one was putting in 7% of their salary, but their company would only match 2.5% of that amount. The advice here is to take that 7% and put it down to just 2.5%. They put in 2.5%, the company puts in 2.5%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read carefully. They were putting in *MORE* than what their companies would match. Example: one was putting in 7% of their salary, but their company would only match 2.5% of that amount. The advice here is to take that 7% and put it down to just 2.5%. They put in 2.5%, the company puts in 2.5%.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say bills... here is a funny joke I saw about outstanding debts, http://ponderingstuff.com/2010/07/05/entering-the-witness-protection-program-to-get-rid-of-bad-debts/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say bills&#8230; here is a funny joke I saw about outstanding debts, <a href="http://ponderingstuff.com/2010/07/05/entering-the-witness-protection-program-to-get-rid-of-bad-debts/" rel="nofollow">http://ponderingstuff.com/2010/07/05/entering-the-witness-protection-program-to-get-rid-of-bad-debts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: How Do You Get Away From The &#8220;We Deserve It&#8221; Attitude?</title>
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		<title>By: Summer is Really Here!</title>
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		<title>By: skrpune</title>
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		<dc:creator>skrpune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found a great &quot;invest or pay down&quot; calculator here: http://www.planningtips.com/cgi-bin/prepay_v_invest.pl.  
It&#039;s geared towards mortgages, but you can use it to calculate interest paid for other loans/debts and it will help you figure out if you can save more by paying down debt or earn more by investing.  Not iron clad, but a great tool. 
Also, the Fidelity investment calculator is great too - lets you see how your investments may grow over time: http://personal.fidelity.com/toolbox/growth/growth.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found a great &#8220;invest or pay down&#8221; calculator here: <a href="http://www.planningtips.com/cgi-bin/prepay_v_invest.pl" rel="nofollow">http://www.planningtips.com/cgi-bin/prepay_v_invest.pl</a>.<br />
It&#8217;s geared towards mortgages, but you can use it to calculate interest paid for other loans/debts and it will help you figure out if you can save more by paying down debt or earn more by investing.  Not iron clad, but a great tool.<br />
Also, the Fidelity investment calculator is great too &#8211; lets you see how your investments may grow over time: <a href="http://personal.fidelity.com/toolbox/growth/growth.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://personal.fidelity.com/toolbox/growth/growth.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Espe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Espe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, this only legitimately applies to pure business expenses, meaning that whatever you desire to deduct must be used EXCLUSIVELY for business purposes.  For example, yes you can deduct the value of a home office space or computer, but only if it is exclusive office space (if the kids ever play in there, you can&#039;t claim the deduction, same goes for if they ever get on the computer).  While this is common practice, and many people get away with it due to the limited manpower of the IRS, it is still not a viable legal option.  If you don&#039;t believe me, call the IRS and ask them (my uncle is a revenue agent).

The advantage to deductions is they keep us from paying taxes on money we don&#039;t receive as spendable income(mortgage and student loan interest, health care premiums etc.).  For example, this past year I was able to deduct moving expenses, I spent and then deducted $3,000 from my taxable income.  I didn&#039;t have to pay taxes on that $3,000, which was good because I was moving either way.  But had I not moved, I would have had to pay taxes on $3,000, but that would have left me with more than $2,000 in my pocket.  The deduction saved me money because I moved, but moving didn&#039;t make me any money.  Better the money not spent with taxes paid, than spent and deducted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, this only legitimately applies to pure business expenses, meaning that whatever you desire to deduct must be used EXCLUSIVELY for business purposes.  For example, yes you can deduct the value of a home office space or computer, but only if it is exclusive office space (if the kids ever play in there, you can&#8217;t claim the deduction, same goes for if they ever get on the computer).  While this is common practice, and many people get away with it due to the limited manpower of the IRS, it is still not a viable legal option.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, call the IRS and ask them (my uncle is a revenue agent).</p>
<p>The advantage to deductions is they keep us from paying taxes on money we don&#8217;t receive as spendable income(mortgage and student loan interest, health care premiums etc.).  For example, this past year I was able to deduct moving expenses, I spent and then deducted $3,000 from my taxable income.  I didn&#8217;t have to pay taxes on that $3,000, which was good because I was moving either way.  But had I not moved, I would have had to pay taxes on $3,000, but that would have left me with more than $2,000 in my pocket.  The deduction saved me money because I moved, but moving didn&#8217;t make me any money.  Better the money not spent with taxes paid, than spent and deducted.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to admit this, but I forgot the tax implications when I made my original comment in this thread.  Oops!

Suppose you have $100 and you are deciding whether to invest it in your 401K or use it to reduce your car debt.  By applying it to your car loan, you are increasing your net worth by $6.90 in one year.  But by applying it to your 401K, you gain not only the 401K stock market advances (or declines) ... say an average of $6 to $10 a year, but you also gain ~ $30 to $35 (depending on your federal tax bracket and state tax situation) by avoiding $100 of reportable income, not to mention the &quot;free&quot; dollars offered by your employer in terms of 401K matching.  I am afraid it makes more sense to keep charging hard on the 401K from a math perspective, although emotionally it may feel better to knock out the car loan quicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to admit this, but I forgot the tax implications when I made my original comment in this thread.  Oops!</p>
<p>Suppose you have $100 and you are deciding whether to invest it in your 401K or use it to reduce your car debt.  By applying it to your car loan, you are increasing your net worth by $6.90 in one year.  But by applying it to your 401K, you gain not only the 401K stock market advances (or declines) &#8230; say an average of $6 to $10 a year, but you also gain ~ $30 to $35 (depending on your federal tax bracket and state tax situation) by avoiding $100 of reportable income, not to mention the &#8220;free&#8221; dollars offered by your employer in terms of 401K matching.  I am afraid it makes more sense to keep charging hard on the 401K from a math perspective, although emotionally it may feel better to knock out the car loan quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: WR @ Worthwild.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>WR @ Worthwild.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure you are convinced of your disagreement but let me try to persuade you otherwise.

Expenses you incur for your business ( Business lunches, Computer equipment (yes, even that Ipad you&#039;ve been looking at), research into the viability of an enterprise, travel related to your business) are deductible. These are things most of us buy and/or do whether we are in business or not. The trick is to think like an entrepreneur and start a business that is in line with your passion and purpose. 

Your home office deduction comes out of the property you already own. Mileage deductions come from the car you already drive. Office equipment deduction comes from...you get the point.

Businesses are taxed only on profits, employees are taxed on wages. Once you understand the difference, the light-bulb will go on and a whole new world will open up to you.

-WR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure you are convinced of your disagreement but let me try to persuade you otherwise.</p>
<p>Expenses you incur for your business ( Business lunches, Computer equipment (yes, even that Ipad you&#8217;ve been looking at), research into the viability of an enterprise, travel related to your business) are deductible. These are things most of us buy and/or do whether we are in business or not. The trick is to think like an entrepreneur and start a business that is in line with your passion and purpose. </p>
<p>Your home office deduction comes out of the property you already own. Mileage deductions come from the car you already drive. Office equipment deduction comes from&#8230;you get the point.</p>
<p>Businesses are taxed only on profits, employees are taxed on wages. Once you understand the difference, the light-bulb will go on and a whole new world will open up to you.</p>
<p>-WR</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Espe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Espe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular opinion, it is not possible to increase your cash flow through tax deductions.  Why?  Because you cannot deduct more than you would have paid in the first place, and.in order to claim a deduction, you must spend the money, so whether the money goes to Uncle Sam, or Office Max, it is no longer in your pocket where it can be used to pay off debt.

While contributions to a 401k are pre-tax contributions, and you won&#039;t get to take home all of your former contributions, unless you are in the (non-existent) 100% tax bracket, there is no way that reducing your contributions would not increase your take-home pay.  It is possible that most of the difference might be WITHHELD from your bi-weekly check, but most of it will come back to you when you file your tax return at the end of the year (all of which should be applied towards debt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular opinion, it is not possible to increase your cash flow through tax deductions.  Why?  Because you cannot deduct more than you would have paid in the first place, and.in order to claim a deduction, you must spend the money, so whether the money goes to Uncle Sam, or Office Max, it is no longer in your pocket where it can be used to pay off debt.</p>
<p>While contributions to a 401k are pre-tax contributions, and you won&#8217;t get to take home all of your former contributions, unless you are in the (non-existent) 100% tax bracket, there is no way that reducing your contributions would not increase your take-home pay.  It is possible that most of the difference might be WITHHELD from your bi-weekly check, but most of it will come back to you when you file your tax return at the end of the year (all of which should be applied towards debt).</p>
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		<title>By: WR @ Worthwild.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>WR @ Worthwild.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting read here.

Before you drop your 401(k) contributions, take a look at your taxes. There are many scenarios where pre-tax 401(k) contributions will result in fractional differences in your take home pay and even some cases where contributing will raise your take home pay. This depends on your tax rate.
plug your own numbers in to Bankrate&#039;s 401(k) calculator and see what you come up with:
http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/retirement/401-k-contribution-calculator.aspx

Remember to only count your money after it has passed through the filter of taxes.


Perhaps instead of reducing your 401(k), you could investigate other ways to reduce your tax burden.

Have you considered starting a home based business? Start up costs, equipment, Home office, Mileage used for business purposes, etc are all deductions. In fact, first year business expenses can significantly reduce your taxes making it even easier to pay off your debts.

-WR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting read here.</p>
<p>Before you drop your 401(k) contributions, take a look at your taxes. There are many scenarios where pre-tax 401(k) contributions will result in fractional differences in your take home pay and even some cases where contributing will raise your take home pay. This depends on your tax rate.<br />
plug your own numbers in to Bankrate&#8217;s 401(k) calculator and see what you come up with:<br />
<a href="http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/retirement/401-k-contribution-calculator.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/retirement/401-k-contribution-calculator.aspx</a></p>
<p>Remember to only count your money after it has passed through the filter of taxes.</p>
<p>Perhaps instead of reducing your 401(k), you could investigate other ways to reduce your tax burden.</p>
<p>Have you considered starting a home based business? Start up costs, equipment, Home office, Mileage used for business purposes, etc are all deductions. In fact, first year business expenses can significantly reduce your taxes making it even easier to pay off your debts.</p>
<p>-WR</p>
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		<title>By: Jason @ One Money Design</title>
		<link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/401k-contributions-with-outstanding-debt/#comment-9601</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason @ One Money Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also like reducing the 401(K) investment down to what is required to get the match.  Make sure you have at least $1000 in savings before paying more on your debt.  You might consider $2000 or one month&#039;s living expenses if there is any hint of unemployment or major expenses coming your way for the kids or something else.  

Regarding the car, that&#039;s a hefty debt.  Have you considered what you could get for it if you sold it yourself (maybe that&#039;s the amt. you mentioned)?  Maybe you could sell it yourself and get closer to the pay off amount?  It would be nice if you could somehow reduce that large debt and still have a good used car that meets your needs.  You might have to come up with some extra money to make up the difference (perhaps your reduction in the 401(K).  I&#039;d rather see you tackle a much smaller car debt and then get after the student loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like reducing the 401(K) investment down to what is required to get the match.  Make sure you have at least $1000 in savings before paying more on your debt.  You might consider $2000 or one month&#8217;s living expenses if there is any hint of unemployment or major expenses coming your way for the kids or something else.  </p>
<p>Regarding the car, that&#8217;s a hefty debt.  Have you considered what you could get for it if you sold it yourself (maybe that&#8217;s the amt. you mentioned)?  Maybe you could sell it yourself and get closer to the pay off amount?  It would be nice if you could somehow reduce that large debt and still have a good used car that meets your needs.  You might have to come up with some extra money to make up the difference (perhaps your reduction in the 401(K).  I&#8217;d rather see you tackle a much smaller car debt and then get after the student loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Budgeting in the Fun Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Budgeting in the Fun Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree in general but have slightly different priorities:

1.  3 month emergency fund
2.  Minimum to get maximum company match in 401k.
3.  High interest debt (greater than 10%)
4.  At least one Roth IRA if you and your wife are eligible
5.  Lower interest debt (car loans, mortgages, student debt, etc.)
6.  Raise the emergency fund to 6 months or a year and max out second Roth IRA.

We are currently at step 5...we&#039;re paying off our remaining car loan ($9500 for my husband&#039;s used Prius at 4.6%) before tackling our mortgage even more than we have since the beginning (we have about $70,000 left at 5.375% on a 15 year loan that is on schedule to be paid off in 10 years or less total).

It&#039;s all about priorities.  Our biggest financial goal is retirement by age 52, so obviously we placed Roth IRA&#039;s higher than some people would.

What would you like more, to retire earlier but waste more money on debt or to pay off your debt and catch up in a couple of years on retirement?  Valid question that only you can answer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree in general but have slightly different priorities:</p>
<p>1.  3 month emergency fund<br />
2.  Minimum to get maximum company match in 401k.<br />
3.  High interest debt (greater than 10%)<br />
4.  At least one Roth IRA if you and your wife are eligible<br />
5.  Lower interest debt (car loans, mortgages, student debt, etc.)<br />
6.  Raise the emergency fund to 6 months or a year and max out second Roth IRA.</p>
<p>We are currently at step 5&#8230;we&#8217;re paying off our remaining car loan ($9500 for my husband&#8217;s used Prius at 4.6%) before tackling our mortgage even more than we have since the beginning (we have about $70,000 left at 5.375% on a 15 year loan that is on schedule to be paid off in 10 years or less total).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about priorities.  Our biggest financial goal is retirement by age 52, so obviously we placed Roth IRA&#8217;s higher than some people would.</p>
<p>What would you like more, to retire earlier but waste more money on debt or to pay off your debt and catch up in a couple of years on retirement?  Valid question that only you can answer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m debating seconding this idea.  You&#039;re child is a year away (in most states) from getting a learner&#039;s permit for driving.  Chances are you don&#039;t want to have a brand new car for him to drive (a safe one definitely) but not a brand new one.  To add to this you have to take into account higher insurance rates for cars for a new driver.  Might be worth it to get a junker.

I would only contribute what your employer will match to your 401(k) plan as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m debating seconding this idea.  You&#8217;re child is a year away (in most states) from getting a learner&#8217;s permit for driving.  Chances are you don&#8217;t want to have a brand new car for him to drive (a safe one definitely) but not a brand new one.  To add to this you have to take into account higher insurance rates for cars for a new driver.  Might be worth it to get a junker.</p>
<p>I would only contribute what your employer will match to your 401(k) plan as well.</p>
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