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> <channel><title>Comments on: Extended Warranty Fund &#8211; Let&#8217;s Insure Ourselves</title> <atom:link href="http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/</link> <description>Debt Credit &#38; Personal Finance &#124; Bible Help</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:08:59 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: FinanciallySmart</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4415</link> <dc:creator>FinanciallySmart</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4415</guid> <description>This is really a great idea because individuals will be earning from it as well. One should not be afraid to step outside of the box. Wonderful article.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really a great idea because individuals will be earning from it as well. One should not be afraid to step outside of the box. Wonderful article.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Week in Review &#8211; 11/14/2009 &#124; Debt Free Adventure!</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4286</link> <dc:creator>Week in Review &#8211; 11/14/2009 &#124; Debt Free Adventure!</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:50:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4286</guid> <description>[...] Extended Warranty Fund &#8211; Let&#8217;s Insure Ourselves [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Extended Warranty Fund &#8211; Let&#8217;s Insure Ourselves [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elle</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4283</link> <dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:02:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4283</guid> <description>This is a great idea and we&#039;ve been happy with not buying an extended warranty. Saving some money on the side is a great way to protect yourself and still have control over your money.I think one thing that&#039;s helped is the amount of time we take before making a big purchase. Depending on what the item is, typically one of us will go ahead and scour the web, consumer reports, and friends to see   what products have a good reputation in quality.It&#039;s not fool proof, but I think the time cost upfront researching helps keep costs down.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea and we&#8217;ve been happy with not buying an extended warranty. Saving some money on the side is a great way to protect yourself and still have control over your money.</p><p>I think one thing that&#8217;s helped is the amount of time we take before making a big purchase. Depending on what the item is, typically one of us will go ahead and scour the web, consumer reports, and friends to see   what products have a good reputation in quality.</p><p>It&#8217;s not fool proof, but I think the time cost upfront researching helps keep costs down.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sunday Money Roundup: Getting Settled In. &#124; My Two Dollars</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4274</link> <dc:creator>Sunday Money Roundup: Getting Settled In. &#124; My Two Dollars</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4274</guid> <description>[...] Free Adventure keeps an &#8220;extended warranty&#8221; fund at ING. Interesting concept, had never thought of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Free Adventure keeps an &#8220;extended warranty&#8221; fund at ING. Interesting concept, had never thought of [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: thisisbeth</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4263</link> <dc:creator>thisisbeth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:42:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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If you buy 10 things that cost $1000, and the extended warranty on each is $100, when 1 of the 10 (10% failure) breaks, you have $1000 saved to pay for a new item.  It&#039;s not that each item gets its own extended warranty, but rather that they&#039;re all lumped together.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLR-<br
/> If you buy 10 things that cost $1000, and the extended warranty on each is $100, when 1 of the 10 (10% failure) breaks, you have $1000 saved to pay for a new item.  It&#8217;s not that each item gets its own extended warranty, but rather that they&#8217;re all lumped together.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: donna</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4253</link> <dc:creator>donna</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4253</guid> <description>having worked retail (selling something that they finally offered an extended warranty on) .  The purpose of selling the warranties is more revenue for the store.
When you buy an extended warranty at the time of purchase, did you ever consider the fact that most items (major appliances and televisions already come with a mfg warranty, so you are getting AND paying for double coverage&gt;)
Pay yourself first, get the minute rewards of &quot;interest&quot; at least and be sure to take good care of the things you purchase.
We have gotten wreckless, including with our own physical self.  No one is immortal.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having worked retail (selling something that they finally offered an extended warranty on) .  The purpose of selling the warranties is more revenue for the store.<br
/> When you buy an extended warranty at the time of purchase, did you ever consider the fact that most items (major appliances and televisions already come with a mfg warranty, so you are getting AND paying for double coverage&gt;)<br
/> Pay yourself first, get the minute rewards of &#8220;interest&#8221; at least and be sure to take good care of the things you purchase.<br
/> We have gotten wreckless, including with our own physical self.  No one is immortal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Austin</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4251</link> <dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:51:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4251</guid> <description>I heart ING sub-accounts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heart ING sub-accounts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4243</link> <dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:39:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4243</guid> <description>Matt, you&#039;ve covered this topic before, but the one line that really does it for me is &quot;In America we are so used to paying other people for things that it is hard to break free and choose instead to pay ourselves.&quot;You&#039;re on to something quite a bit deeper with this.  We like to pay others then assume everything is covered, though the outcome is usually something different.Obviously companies aren&#039;t going to issue warranties if they&#039;ll take a bath on them, so they set them up with sufficient exclusions that they&#039;ll come out ahead.Our trust in these arrangements tends to be of the blind nature, rooted in the fact that we don&#039;t know what we don&#039;t know, and assume all is under control.Most of us are better at looking out for ourselves than paid strangers will ever be.Outstanding post!
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/11/13/credit-cards-vs-debit-cards-a-different-take/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Credit Cards vs. Debit Cards – A Different Take&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you&#8217;ve covered this topic before, but the one line that really does it for me is &#8220;In America we are so used to paying other people for things that it is hard to break free and choose instead to pay ourselves.&#8221;</p><p>You&#8217;re on to something quite a bit deeper with this.  We like to pay others then assume everything is covered, though the outcome is usually something different.</p><p>Obviously companies aren&#8217;t going to issue warranties if they&#8217;ll take a bath on them, so they set them up with sufficient exclusions that they&#8217;ll come out ahead.</p><p>Our trust in these arrangements tends to be of the blind nature, rooted in the fact that we don&#8217;t know what we don&#8217;t know, and assume all is under control.</p><p>Most of us are better at looking out for ourselves than paid strangers will ever be.</p><p>Outstanding post!<br
/> .-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a
href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/11/13/credit-cards-vs-debit-cards-a-different-take/" rel="nofollow">Credit Cards vs. Debit Cards – A Different Take</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4241</link> <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:03:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4241</guid> <description>My thing is this - most people never even take advantage of the regular manufacturer&#039;s warranty, and our society has become a disposable society. A TV fails? you just buy a new one.  Your camera starts taking fuzzy pictures?  You get a new one.  Most people never even realize that a lot of the problems they have with their consumer products may actually be covered under their manufacturer&#039;s warranty.  i &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblemoneymatters.com/2008/08/take-advantage-of-manufacturers-warranties-but-dont-buy-extended-warranties.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about it here&lt;/a&gt;so my advice?  Take advantage of the manufacturer&#039;s warranty, because most products if they&#039;re going to fail do it within the first year or two.   Like matt says though - don&#039;t buy an extended warranty. Self-insure against risk of product failure.
.-= Peter´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BibleMoneyMatters/~3/D31txx-CWBI/50-budget-programs-finance-softwares-and-iphone-apps-to-help-whip-your-money-into-shape.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Great Big List Of 75 Budgeting Tools, Finance Softwares And Iphone Money Apps&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thing is this &#8211; most people never even take advantage of the regular manufacturer&#8217;s warranty, and our society has become a disposable society. A TV fails? you just buy a new one.  Your camera starts taking fuzzy pictures?  You get a new one.  Most people never even realize that a lot of the problems they have with their consumer products may actually be covered under their manufacturer&#8217;s warranty.  i <a
href="http://www.biblemoneymatters.com/2008/08/take-advantage-of-manufacturers-warranties-but-dont-buy-extended-warranties.html" rel="nofollow">wrote about it here</a></p><p>so my advice?  Take advantage of the manufacturer&#8217;s warranty, because most products if they&#8217;re going to fail do it within the first year or two.   Like matt says though &#8211; don&#8217;t buy an extended warranty. Self-insure against risk of product failure.<br
/> .-= Peter´s last blog ..<a
href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BibleMoneyMatters/~3/D31txx-CWBI/50-budget-programs-finance-softwares-and-iphone-apps-to-help-whip-your-money-into-shape.html" rel="nofollow">The Great Big List Of 75 Budgeting Tools, Finance Softwares And Iphone Money Apps</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt Jabs</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4240</link> <dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:04:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4240</guid> <description>Ha ha, I love it when economists break the numbers down for me.  Good stuff MLR, thank you.I suppose this concept would be highly personal, where each of us saves what we feel comfortable with.  What&#039;s most important is that we grasp the concept that our money is better spent earning us interest with the possibility of never being spent than it is in the pockets of others.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, I love it when economists break the numbers down for me.  Good stuff MLR, thank you.</p><p>I suppose this concept would be highly personal, where each of us saves what we feel comfortable with.  What&#8217;s most important is that we grasp the concept that our money is better spent earning us interest with the possibility of never being spent than it is in the pockets of others.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MLR</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4234</link> <dc:creator>MLR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:20:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4234</guid> <description>A lot of this should be based on someones risk profile. If they are pretty conservative, it may be worth getting the warranty. If they are more aggressive, self insuring the product may be a better option.One thing to note, though, is that the price of the warranty isn&#039;t (imo) the amount you should set aside. The companies get that value because of pooled risk... something you can&#039;t take advantage of.Assume: Product retails $1,000 and costs $900 to make, 100 people purchased the product with a warranty, 10 people need replacements (cost $900), 10 people need repairs costing $350 (valued at $450 if you had to do it on your own), 80 people don&#039;t use it.The expected value of this warranty is E(x)=probability of an event times the cost of an event.... E(x)=.1(900)+(.1)350+0(0)=$125.So, the company can charge $125 per warranty and break even. Any amount above is pure profit. Let&#039;s assume they charge $200.Now Matt Jabs (being a savvy shopper) declines insurance and instead puts $200 in his bank account. However, you would have a 10% chance that the repair costs $450 and a 10% chance the replacement costs $1,000 (you would be paying retail, not cost like the mfg). Your expected value is $145, but is that a risk you are willing to take?Just something to think about. Unless you buy A LOT of items that have warranties offered, hence pooling your own risk by having a warranty fund with 8 contributions, you should probably put in more than the warranty actually costs.As a note: I don&#039;t buy warranty funds unless on specific items. I think Consumer Reports usually recommends getting them on laptops (above a certain price) and LCD/plasma TVs.
.-= MLR´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MyLifeROI/~3/psbgBph-ChI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Should Someone Receiving Government Aid Give to Charity?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this should be based on someones risk profile. If they are pretty conservative, it may be worth getting the warranty. If they are more aggressive, self insuring the product may be a better option.</p><p>One thing to note, though, is that the price of the warranty isn&#8217;t (imo) the amount you should set aside. The companies get that value because of pooled risk&#8230; something you can&#8217;t take advantage of.</p><p>Assume: Product retails $1,000 and costs $900 to make, 100 people purchased the product with a warranty, 10 people need replacements (cost $900), 10 people need repairs costing $350 (valued at $450 if you had to do it on your own), 80 people don&#8217;t use it.</p><p>The expected value of this warranty is E(x)=probability of an event times the cost of an event&#8230;. E(x)=.1(900)+(.1)350+0(0)=$125.</p><p>So, the company can charge $125 per warranty and break even. Any amount above is pure profit. Let&#8217;s assume they charge $200.</p><p>Now Matt Jabs (being a savvy shopper) declines insurance and instead puts $200 in his bank account. However, you would have a 10% chance that the repair costs $450 and a 10% chance the replacement costs $1,000 (you would be paying retail, not cost like the mfg). Your expected value is $145, but is that a risk you are willing to take?</p><p>Just something to think about. Unless you buy A LOT of items that have warranties offered, hence pooling your own risk by having a warranty fund with 8 contributions, you should probably put in more than the warranty actually costs.</p><p>As a note: I don&#8217;t buy warranty funds unless on specific items. I think Consumer Reports usually recommends getting them on laptops (above a certain price) and LCD/plasma TVs.<br
/> .-= MLR´s last blog ..<a
href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MyLifeROI/~3/psbgBph-ChI/" rel="nofollow">Should Someone Receiving Government Aid Give to Charity?</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4226</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4226</guid> <description>I always thought the concept of paying for a warranty was funny.  The seller is basically telling you that what you are buying may not live up to expectations, so why are you even considering buying it?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought the concept of paying for a warranty was funny.  The seller is basically telling you that what you are buying may not live up to expectations, so why are you even considering buying it?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Financial Samurai</title><link>http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/extended-warranty-fund-lets-insure-ourselves/#comment-4225</link> <dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:09:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/?p=2540#comment-4225</guid> <description>Hmmmm, interesting concept.  I studied insurance companies thoroughly in business school and the conclusion is simply that Insurance Companies exist for a reason, to make money off of us!If the insurance companies weren&#039;t making money off of us, they would not exist.  Hence, they are usually getting the long end of the stick.I never pay for an extended warranty.  I try to make sure it breaks beforehand and fight like crazy to get it fixed and replaced!I admit though warranties are great... saved my $800 Def Tech sub woofer this month, and my very expensive watch as well.  But again I didn&#039;t pay for an extension.In fact, I just saved $2.1 million on lunch yesterday by switching the TV on. Huh? :)FS
.-= Financial Samurai´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FinancialSamurai/~3/Kd5wS18yHUc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Saved $2.1 Million On Lunch – A Sit Down With Warren Buffett&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, interesting concept.  I studied insurance companies thoroughly in business school and the conclusion is simply that Insurance Companies exist for a reason, to make money off of us!</p><p>If the insurance companies weren&#8217;t making money off of us, they would not exist.  Hence, they are usually getting the long end of the stick.</p><p>I never pay for an extended warranty.  I try to make sure it breaks beforehand and fight like crazy to get it fixed and replaced!</p><p>I admit though warranties are great&#8230; saved my $800 Def Tech sub woofer this month, and my very expensive watch as well.  But again I didn&#8217;t pay for an extension.</p><p>In fact, I just saved $2.1 million on lunch yesterday by switching the TV on. Huh? <img
src='http://www.debtfreeadventure.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>FS<br
/> .-= Financial Samurai´s last blog ..<a
href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FinancialSamurai/~3/Kd5wS18yHUc/" rel="nofollow">I Saved $2.1 Million On Lunch – A Sit Down With Warren Buffett</a> =-.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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