In these economic times it is not only crucial that we reevaluate the way we handle our finances, but also the way we teach our children to handle theirs.
This post is not written to reiterate popular modern methods of teaching children about money, but rather to help us move toward a proper system of training, regardless of what is currently popular.
Children learn from watching their parents behavior, not from listening to what their parents preach. Understanding that, the best way to train children on the proper use of finances is to use our own finances properly.
A Proper Approach to Allowance
I believe we are doing our children a disservice if we give allowance solely as a reward for doing chores. Allowance should be given for use as a tool to train them on budgeting and how to handle their finances, not as a reward for completing household chores. Do you agree with this philosophy? Before you answer that question… read on.
Most commonly, a family is an interdependent group of people living together in a love relationship. Members of the family depend on each other and work together for the benefit of the unit as a whole. They share most everything and do not benefit by keeping separate accounts of “yours and mine.” Just as parents make dinner, wash dishes, clean the home, and offer transportation without expectation of allowance… children should be trained to contribute in much the same way.
By paying children for daily chores we are actually robbing them of their opportunity to contribute based on love, and instead teaching them that they should be paid for their contribution to the family.
So what about reward for excellent behavior? Rewards should be given for going above and beyond the normal call of duty – thus earning a bonus – but not for performing everyday tasks.
A Proper Distribution
Since allowance is a tool used to train the child on the matter of proper money management… what about taxes? I believe children should have taxes taken out of their allowance in order to paint them a more accurate portrait of how money is handled in “the real world.” Some may find this legalistic, but I’d rather they be as prepared for reality as possible.
Here is a solid outline for proper distribution of their allowance. Take this and make it your own based on your situation.
- 15% giving – Based on gross amount… taken before taxes or anything else.
- 10% to taxes – Just as we have to pay taxes as an adult, we should give the child a similar opportunity… after all the idea is to train them. Put this amount back into their college savings fund or some other savings account to be used for their future. It may not seem like a lot, but remember… every penny counts!
- 25% to savings – What to save for? This is a very personal matter to be determined by the parents. If nothing else, simply save it to save it.
- 25% to bills – This is a very powerful concept, so keep an open mind here! This money should go back to the parents and gives the children the unique opportunity to contribute to the household bills. This builds confidence, self-worth, and an unmatchable feeling of usefulness. This philosophy can also be used to teach them to conserve spending on household utilities, groceries, etc. As much as possible, try to involve them in the bill paying/grocery shopping process… doing so will give them a “vested interest” in cutting costs.
- 25% to spending – This can be used as the child desires, but be careful here – proper use of this portion is critical in shaping their future spending habits. If they want to spend it, they can spend it. If they want to roll it into their savings, they can do that as well. If they want to help out with bills, that too should be welcomed! I think you will be surprised by how much of it they simply want to give back to you in an effort to further “help out” with the costs of running the home! Always make yourself available to help them make these decisions.
Give the children all their money up front, so they can see it and physically handle it. Then help them divvy it up according to the distribution system you set up. Also, include a statement of distribution so the child can see where all their money goes; just as your employer does with your paycheck. Do not simply withhold a certain amount, because you want them to be as involved as possible.
What do you think?
Although we do not currently have children, we have interviewed several of our relatives on this matter, my wife also holds a masters degree in child psychology, and the concepts I’m about to lay out make perfect sense – although they will challenge you since they are not in-line with the popular way of doing things (which in my opinion is a good thing!)
For those of you that currently have children, what are some challenges I’ll face while trying to implement this system? What system do you have in place?
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We give our children allowance because they are part of the family. As a family, we participate in the blessings we’ve received, including our income. And also as a family, we all participate in chores and helping out (without compensation).
If they want to earn extra money, they can do extra things (wash car, pick up sticks, etc). I don’t think they should be confined to allowance in their money making pursuits. The Lord praises hard work and we should reward it.
As for taxes, that’s not a bad idea depending the age. I’m currently working with my 4 year old on money management. She’s learning things about interest, saving, tithing, etc. Right now, taxes would be overkill (and perhaps confusing). Down the road it would be worth considering. Here’s the bank/teaching guide we use: http://www.crown.org/cartproducts/Product.asp?sku=PK101&aid=
Her % are: tithe = at least 10%, saving = 30%, spending = 60%. Saving is for presents to buy people. Spending can be for whatever she wants. If she wants something that costs more than she has, she can save for within her 60%. Furthermore, she can only have 3 things on her list, the item has to be on her list for 3 days before she buys it, and she can only buy 1 thing a week (she doesn’t have a ton of money so this isn’t too much an issue).
Thanks Matt. Our children are always worth talking about.
To clarify I don’t have children so this will just be my thoughts that haven’t been put to a real world test.
1. On what to give an allowance for: I completely get this but from my experience I feel that starting them out with helping and then moving them to an allowance down the road as they take on more responsibility would be helpful.
Growing up we could earn additional money by tackling bigger projects. For example cleaning out the garage which was above our normal weekly tasks and was a considerable amount of work.
2. Distribution. Again I like this but it depends on what age you start (and stop) paying an allowance. If you’re giving a $5 bonus to a child below 10 I wouldn’t feel right personally doing the taxes and bills payment. However from 10-12 on I think all of the distribution areas are good to start teaching habits.
Thanks for a thought provoking post.
We were given a small, basic allowance in grade school through highschool. In grade school, it was enough that we could save up for a long time and possibly buy a toy. In highschool, it was enough that we could go to the movies once a month if we wanted to and have a couple bucks for popcorn (tickets were a tiny bit cheaper back then).
My parents’ basic goal was teaching us how to handle our money. And they wanted us to experience the value of saving up for something. It also taught us that if we wanted something expensive or if we wanted it soon, we’d have to find ways to earn our own money. So, I saved up for a $2,000 violin and a trip to Europe in highschool (granted, my grandfather gave me $500 of that for my 16th birthday). I think my parents allowance lessons made a big difference in that I was willing to wait for good things.
In college, my parents gave me an allowance based on basic needs we came up with. The idea was that I could meet these without having to be employed so I could quit my job in case it interfered with the purpose of being in college–my education. That worked well, too. I graduated college with savings because I’d saved up most of the extra money I earned.
I wasn’t given an allowance in the traditional sense, but I was given a fully functional checking account (and check book) when I was 16 years old. Every two weeks, I had to spend several minutes with one of my parents going over my biweekly expenses, balance the checkbook, etc.
As for my allowance, a deposit of $100 would appear each month to pay for gas, school lunches, and anything else the average teenager would need to live a standard social life. Nothing extravagant, and the parents paid the major bills, but it gave me a strong sense of personal responsibility in managing my own personal finances.
So just like Mrs. Micah above, the goal of seemingly responsible parents should be to teach their children HOW to manage money and not necessarily to give them a $20 bill every time a hand is extended.
Although we do not have children currently, I think the system you proposed can get a little tricky. I am with Matthew on this, It can work when the child is somewhat older and begins to understand the concept of taxes, at earlier stage it is far to complicated and beyond their understanding. There is also the issue of overload, there is only so much a child’s brain can absorb and parents need to pick and choose where they want to start.
Savings, budgeting, spending…etc.
It is more important to ensure they get a good grasp of basic money management before jumping to taxes.
This was really well done and a difficult subject to boot. Nice job MJ!
In our house, we use a hybrid approach. When our offspring were young, we gave them an allowance but we didn’t really take your good advice. We just used it to try to teach them the value of work and money.
As we grew older together, we stopped this and I don’t really know why. What we did do however, which had a strong impact, was be very open about our business and financial situation. This really put a cap on the conversation “but Billy has it…why can’t I?”
In retrospect, I wish I’d continued with the allowance. While my kids are very responsible, the two younger ones still look to me and my wife a bit more than I’d like.
I believe that you should give your child an allowance not based on chores. This helps them to learn independent thought and to fit their desires inside a boundary of money they have.
As the children grow older it is my opinion that it is acceptable to “hire” them for any tasks that you would have given to someone outside the family. Of course, at the family rate. It is good for them to see that hard work can result in a reward.
I understand the tax POV but on my daughter as she grew up it was entirely lost on her. She got the lesson all at once when she got her first check from her first job. Now that was the ultimate teachable moment.
Steve
Another great article, Matt. I am extremely intrigued by the thought of “taxing” my kids’ earnings. I think it is a GREAT idea! In fact, I think I will begin implementing a tax scheme as soon as I figure out what it should look like! And, oh boy, I know they are not going to like it! 🙂
I would like to nitpick on your statement that an allowance is a tool used to train kids on the matter of proper money management. I say nitpick because I know what you meant, but in a literal sense giving a kid an allowance alone does nothing to help them learn how to manage their money.
That is why I strongly recommend teaching kids to how use a ledger book to help them actually manage their money. My kids have been managing their own ledgers to track and manage their allowance and other earnings since they were six years old. It also provides other benefits such as: 1) allowing them to earn “performance bonuses” for saving money, and 2) allowing them to go into debt, if they wish, by taking loans from the Bank of Dad – of course they have to pay interest on their debt.
I wrote an article on all the gory details on my blog. Those who are interested can check out the post on teaching kids how to use a ledger is still my second most popular post ever, so it’s sitting on the side bar in the Popular Posts section. (Sorry for the self-promotion, Matt!)
My $0.02 (after taxes)
Len
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Great thought-provoking topic.
On the one hand, I don’t see a problem giving money for chores. After all, we put in time and effort and are rewarded with a paycheck. This is normal work and life. I think it can teach them that if you don’t work, you don’t get paid.
I think there should be clear expectations up front though regarding the attitude in which the chores should be done and the quality of the work – if those aren’t met, then allowance isn’t paid or it is docked.
I do understand your point that children should be willing to contribute to the family with love, without expectation of money in return.
Children should be taught to give beyond what is expected to “just get a paycheck” – because a life of service and generosity creates happier people any ways.
I think that can be done with or without money for chores and largely depends on what the parents are instilling in them or how they are going about it.
I really like your ideas for percentages of what to do with allowance money – especially the taxes!
I don’t think that I ever had an allowance growing up. I worked around the house doing chores like many, I never really got paid for it. I never really expected it either, it was just part of growing up in our house.
Sometimes you do things “just cuz”. A very good friend of mine helped me move my pool table the other day. He helped and never asked to be paid for his time.
I am not paid hourly, just a salary. So, if I have to stay late to finish a project, I actually get paid less! Another good lesson is that sometimes you work hard and there is no finical reward!
Sounds like a good buddy – make sure you hang on to that friend! 🙂
“I worked around the house doing chores like many, I never really got paid for it. I never really expected it either, it was just part of growing up in our house.”
I love that quote. That is the environment we need to create so our children have a proper perspective.
Couple of thoughts
1. We do not give our kids money for doing chores. They are part of the family and they should help out in the house – whether it is taking the dog out or clearing the garbage. So agree with you on this one.
2. One idea – ever thought of progressive taxes? Tax your oldest kid more since they get more? Let’s see how they react! Bet you all of them would prefer a flat tax!
I think whatever you choose to do with kids and allowance needs to be catered to each child depending on their age, personality, and temperament. I have three young kids and they are each very unique.
Because my kids are younger I had to sort through all the important financial lessons I wanted them to learn. My goal was that the lessons would be simple but lay a solid foundation. I decided what I wanted my kids to learn before I started exploring how I would help them learn those lessons.
Currently we do not pay our kids an allowance. However, my daughter (4) does a 5 min ‘extra’ job every night and gets one coin. The coin goes in one of three jars: Wed and Sun = give jar. Mon and Thurs = Save jar. Tues and Sat = Spend. And on Friday she chooses where to put her coin (often give).
When the kids are older I have no issues with giving them an allowance if I think it is the right tool to lay the financial foundations necessary (again depending on the temperament of the kid).
If my kids learn to save for what they need to buy, to give and be generous with what they earn, and that it is a blessing to have money to spend then I feel like they are on the right track.
My advice: Seek a simple solution. Highlight the essentials.
While I don’t have kids, I was one long ago, and I can speak to what my parents did. We did receive an allowance and we were expected to do certain chores every week. The allowance was our “income,” so any extras we wanted were to come out of whatever we saved. Our Sunday School offering also came out of our allowance, so we learned to give as well. I won’t say that I was good with my money as a child and teenager, but as an adult, I am most careful with money, so maybe the lessons of “give some, save some” took root all those years ago.
We worked toward the same goals you set, but defined it differently. We paid our kids (now all grown) for designated tasks but we also required them to help around the house without being paid. This way, we didn’t “rob them of the opportunity to contribute based on love” and we also were able to teach them about working, earning money and managing money. Our “paid work” is similar to your “bonus” work.
Because of the rigors of raising four children, we were not always consistent with our money lessons, but I suppose much of it stuck because all four are very good at managing money today. I am a proud dad.
Good topic!
Allowances are very useful in creating a basic knowledge of money and budgeting. I’m kind of surprised by how long a few of the commentators’ parents gave them allowances. Once a child reaches 16, I’m in the camp that they should get a job. That may be just me, but at 16 a job will start teaching them “Advanced money skills” which will be very useful once they go to college or enter the workforce out of high school.
I would raise one issue with the reasoning behind “25% to bills.” If the idea is to create “buy-in” from your children and have them cooperate in lowering expenses, the percentage needs to be a sliding rule. You can base it on your previous month expenses or do something similar. If you do it as a fixed rate, any behavioral changes they make to save on costs will not be realized by them. This will lead to a mentality of “I can’t make a difference, so what the heck… I’m going to use, use, use!”
MLR
A sliding percentage toward bills based on how much the bills are… BRILLIANT MLR!
That would be a very solid way to encourage children to lower their use of utilities, etc.
Well, to be fair, I’ll say that this is probably the best and most well thought out argument in favor of allowances. I agree that they need to be handling money to learn about saving, spending, giving…
As a father of 2, one of which we have been doing commissions with for 3 years (the other is 21 months old), I’ll explain why I’m still on the other side of the fence.
1> Work, get paid – conversely, don’t work, don’t get paid. We’ve always limited TV time, which cuts down on the amount of “I want this toy” that a parent hears. But at some point, in some store, that little girl is going to find something that she can’t live without. We’ve always been adamant that buying ‘stuff’, it has to come from her money. Her money being what she has earned from doing chores. The two affects of this that we have observed are A> She really considers the choice (as much as is possible at that age) of spending money since she knows what she had to do to earn it. B> She grows just a little bit with each of those decisions. When the money is gone, she’s not running to us expecting another handout. The honest answer is, “Sounds like you need to do your chores to earn the money to pay for that”.
2> Allowance = ??? – I don’t see a life lesson tied to an allowance – at least not a positive one. Allowance = Government bailout? welfare? co-dependence? entitlement? I’d argue all of the above. If the goal is to simulate the ‘real world’ (case in point: the taxes you’ve levied), then what are we teaching here? I see nothing redeeming about it.
3> It’s not the Children’s Labor Union – It’s 3-5 age appropriate chores. This does not preclude them from taking part in the household nor lead them to expect a dole for every little task. Our oldest takes scraps to the compost, clears her dishes from the table, and helps with her sister – none of which are her chores, nor does she expect payment.
A simple plan of commissions for chores, divided between envelopes for giving, saving, and spending has been quite successful for us, thus far. As teenagers, I could see starting to have them contribute to bills that they significantly use – cell phone for instance. Charging them taxes just seems cruel. Especially since our current tax system is counter productive and penalizes you the more you earn.
A couple of things…
Great point about bailouts/welfare/etc. I’ll have to think about that one. It is an antithesis to the point about robbing them of free will contribution, and definitely deserves consideration.
Per taxes – it’s not about teaching them the in’s & out’s of our current tax system, but simply to teach them that they will HAVE to pay tax.
To be honest, I think this is too complicated a system. I believe that the key point is what you opened with – children do as you do, not as you say. I think that the best thing parents can do is be responsible with money themselves and talk to their children about how you deal with different issues (saving, budgeting, spending, giving to charity, taxes).
That said, this approach might make a lot of sense when the kids are older (maybe 12 or so?) and can understand these more complex concepts and already have their financial values in the making.
I wrote up a post on what we do, and what 11 years as a parent have taught me.
Like WM, I think the system outlined is too complicated. Young children should have fun money the same way adults do.
You can encourage your children to donate and save money through your actions. Every time we are in the store it is a teachable moment.
I don’t say, “we have no money,” I say we’re saving for emergencies, or we’re paying for things we already have still (borrowed money they understand), and we’d love to do x (say go see a movie), but then we wouldn’t be able to go out to eat too, etc.
I personally think children should get a part-time job when they are old enough, and they will learn about taxes then.
As the kids reach their teen years I anticipate giving them a bit more freedom with their money (a monthly allowance and checking account), and making them responsible in full or in part for some bills. IE If they want a cell phone, they have to pay for their monthly fees, etc.
Superb article. Getting them to contribute to household bills is especially valuable.
But on top of this, what would you say to continuing this beyond The Allowance Years into the After-School-Job Years?
I’d think that it would be less of a shock to continue this if the kids had done it the whole time with their allowances, but I don’t know.
Thanks.
I suppose continuing this would not be necessary since they will now be earning their own income right?
I like Dave Ramseys take on allowance.
Put the kids on commission. work get paid, don’t work don’t get paid. just like the real world. Allowance gives the impression that you are entitled to the money without working.
The late Larry Burkett says you should give the kids some paid jobs/chores…. and some they won’t get paid for.
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