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Credit Cards – Close ’em Shred ’em & Forget ’em!

10.06.2009 by Matt Jabs //

Before…

DFA community wisdom says forgo the “rewards” of the credit card industry and put an end to toxic relationships with giant credit card banks.

Last week I asked all of you to help me decide a Wise Use of Paid off Credit Cards.

The overwhelming majority say “forget FICO” and chose instead to “close ‘em, shred ‘em, and forget ‘em!”

So…

I decided to take your advice…

After…

Yesterday we closed all our old big bank credit cards, and were not the least bit sad to see them go!  Here is a list of our ex-saboteurs:

  • Capital One
  • Chase (twice)
  • Citi
  • HSBC

I also closed these department store cards:

  • ABC Warehouse
  • Banana Republic

Thank you to all who participated in the poll, and especially to everyone who added to the many insightful comments (53 at the time of this writing.) You input was very carefully combed over and very much appreciated.

So why else did we close our credit card accounts?

Good question.  For whatever reason it was not a decision that came quickly or easily, rather we toiled over the decision for months.

And I’m not really sure why we toiled.  Credit card companies have never been a benefit to me, or my wife.  They have never “saved” us from economic hardship – quite the opposite actually.

In the interest of full disclosure, there was a period a few years ago where my wife was out of work and we used the cards while “in the red” at the end of each month.  However, looking back if we would have simply lowered our standard of living – like we have now – we never would have needed to use them and would have gotten by just fine – nay… better – without them.

The truth of the matter is, credit card banks make me nervous.

Their business practices blow past “questionable” and fall more accurately in the realm of “criminal.”

You don’t have to hold a doctorate in Economics to realize that fattening up the bottom line by any means defines gospel truth to credit card banks.  Arguing the moral inventory of the credit industry would be a job reserved for the corporately brainwashed – to whom I say, “WAKE UP!”

Case in point… since paying our cards off – just a few months back – we have already been hit with a newly instituted annual fee whose induction was buried on page 3 of a statement we received about our interest rate going up.  Ultimately I take responsibility for not reading the entire document (*puke*) but this type of hoodwinking is exactly what I want to avoid – and exactly why I ended up canceling our cards.

**NEWSFLASH** Attention credit card companies – Despite what you may have learned in credit card school, your customers do not enjoy getting bamboozled.

Should you close your credit card accounts?

That is up to you my friend.  If you want my advice I would say to yes, you should close them – however I will refrain from using this blanket statement since some people love to play the rewards game.  Personally… I don’t have the time or patience for it, and would MUCH prefer simply never having to deal with the toxic credit card banks ever again.

Here are some reasons for and against closing your old credit cards accounts.  I will try to remain fair to both sides here…

Nah… I will call it exactly as I see it.

Reasons you may want to leave your account open:

  • When credit cards say jump for rewards – you say how high.  Remember, to get their rewards you have to use the card in a very specific way.  And if you screw up once… BAM!  Fees high enough to wipe out months, maybe years, of built up rewards.
  • Increased FICO score – In the above poll DFA readers overwhelming advised against basing your decisions on your FICO score or, as some called it in the comments, your “I Love Debt Score.”
  • Security for emergencies – C’mon… you know what I’m going to say now right?  Don’t use credit cards for emergencies… work to build up your Emergency Fund and use that instead.  Trust me… this is the way to go!

Reasons for you to close your credit card account:

  • No more temptation to use them – You can’t spend what you don’t have.  Getting rid of your cards eliminates temptation to spend money you don’t have.
  • No more dealings with a company who lives to empty your pockets – From the time you’re of legal age the giant credit card banks are courting you with very carefully orchestrated strategies… all with the end goal of getting you into an endless cycle of interest payments to them.
  • No worrying about fees (late payment fee, over the limit fee, etc.) – No open credit card accounts = no fees.  It’s just that simple.
  • No more interest payments to others – Instead you can bank your money and pay yourself interest.  What a concept eh?
  • No more supporting an industry that feeds on the less fortunate – I mentioned the fact that you no longer have to deal with deceitful companies, but closing your accounts will also end your relationship with an industry based on predation of the less fortunate.  According to the FDIC 93% of fees are charged to 14% of credit card users.

I’m sure there are countless other reasons to terminate your relationship with your big credit card banks… but this list is more than enough to open your eyes and give you a head-start.

Will I ever use credit card rewards again?

Because I am a Personal Finance Blogger…

I may soon be testing the rewards program of my local credit union in the hopes of providing DFA readers with a positive rewards solution – because I will never endorse big bank rewards programs and I would like to be able to endorse a healthy alternative… if possible.

In that spirit I have decided to leave myself a single credit option, albeit a much healthier one.  If you must keep a credit card, the following route is probably your best bet.

After recently switching to Capital One 360 for our banking – *love it* – we decided to subsidize the liaison with a membership to our local credit union.  A few weeks prior to our close ’em, shred ’em, and forget ’em decision… the credit union extended a joint, rewards credit card offer, and we accepted.  While we have no immediate intention of using this card, because it is with our local credit union (not a big bank) and because of the reason stated above, we are keeping the account open… for now.

Categories // Counsel, Spending Tags // credit cards

Mr. Credit Card Interviews Matt Jabs

08.19.2009 by Matt Jabs //

Yesterday I had the pleasure of appearing on Mr. Credit Card’s Blog Talk Radio show.

I had a great time in the interview and ended up talking with Mr. Credit Card for another hour and a half after the show… obviously we had a LOT of interesting things to talk about!

Mr. Credit Card runs a very helpful website that focuses on helping consumers find the best credit cards for their individual needs.

Topics Covered

  1. How I got into debt
  2. How I was rejected for a balance transfer credit card, which I planned to use to consolidate my debt at a lower rate.
  3. My experiences with lending club – and how I successfully used LC to consolidate all my high interest debt at a lower rate!
  4. How my wife and I talk about our finances and how we successfully overcame her anxiety about money and budgets.

The interview covered the above topics plus a whole lot more!

I hope you enjoy!

Categories // Debt, General Tags // credit cards, interview

Pay off Credit Cards VS Build Emergency Fund Savings – Me VS Suze Orman

07.17.2009 by Matt Jabs //

Pay Off Credit Cards VS Build Emergency Fund SavingsRecently I had a bit of a “tweet off” with Suze Orman because of a slight breakdown in communication between Suze, my wife, and myself…

What Happened?

Now that we are a one car family — at least temporarily — my wife takes me to & picks me up from work when…  a). I stay up too late blogging.  OR  b). I’m too lazy to ride my bike.  One or the other happens most days!

On our way home the other day she mentioned how she had been watching Suze Orman on Oprah (via our free over-the-air HD digital TV signal since I refuse to pay for television anymore) and was wondering if we were following the specific financial advice Suze was offering that day.  Despite being swayed by the advice Miss Orman was offering, Mrs. Jabs was not able to accurately relay the information to me exactly as she had heard it from the boob tube — probably more my fault than hers since I have been know to be a bad listener from time to time.

Here’s what my wife was trying to tell me, based on advice from Suze:

We should be focusing on building our Emergency Fund savings (and other savings for that matter) before paying off all our credit card debt because…

  1. If you have an emergency, you will have money saved to take care of your needs and will not have to go further into credit card debt.
  2. Many banks are closing your credit cards if you pay them off and discontinue use; so if you pay them all off & have no Emergency Fund built up, then you have NO way to pay for your emergency… not even with a card.

Here’s the way I was interpreting what she was telling me, based on advice from Suze:

We should be retaining at least part of our credit card debt so that the banks don’t shut off our cards.

As you can see there was a miscommunication from the time the information left Suze’s mouth, came through the tube, entered into my wife’s ears, proceeded to be processed through her brain, marinated awhile, passed on to my ears, was processed through what I like to call “my ingenious mind”, then was finally realized as I sat there in the passenger seat on the way home shaking my head in disagreement.

What Did I Do?

I did what any self-respecting personal finance blogger would do… I tweeted Suze Orman!  Here’s how it went down:

As you can see, we were able to resolve our differences… which I’m sure left Suze very relieved!

So What’s The Answer

As you know there is never one right answer for everybody in every situation, however… I’m going to take a crack at it!  Although I do not agree with Suze Orman on all her teaching points, we do agree on the subject of building your emergency fund; but I am going to throw in one additional piece of advice…

In most situations reaching a healthy balance is the name of the game, and the subject of Emergency Funds and Credit Card Debt Reduction is no different.  Based on this precept of proper balance, my wife & I have committed to focus our financial efforts on both.

We attack our credit card debt by focusing 75% of our available funds toward it.  We also strike a balance that works for us by putting 25% into Emergency Fund savings. This way we are simultaneously, and comfortably reducing our high interest debt and building our savings safety net.

What Do You Think?

What works for you?  Do you put all your eggs in either basket… or do you balance your eggs by spreading them out in different baskets so if you drop your one basket you’ll still have another basketful eat for breakfast?

Categories // Debt, Featured, Investing, Money Management Tags // credit, credit cards, Debt, emergency fund

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